Murder, Drugs and Cover-Ups: Military Insider Exposes the Criminal Cartel Within the US Navy SEALs

Thanks for doing this. >> Thank you, Tucker. >> Um, you've had a really varied life, I would say, and you have devoted the last several, maybe seven years of it to a man called Job Price and his memory and discovering the truth about how his life ended. Who was he? >> It's an interesting story. Um, he and I were classmates at Pottstown High School. We graduated together in 1989. Um, but we weren't friends. Like we >> Philadelphia. >> Yes. Outside of Philadelphia. And uh we knew each other in the same classes, but we didn't socialize outside of school. And but he was the the bar, right? It's academically, athletically. He was the bar everybody was trying to reach. He was brilliant. He was a three sport star in school. and he was just he was for me personally he was my my academic rival and I we both were on the I at one point in time I was on the the track to be go to a military academy and he ended up going to the Air Force Academy. Um graduated from there and then transferred his commission to the Navy because he wanted to be a Navy Seal. Um but he was kind of a goofy guy. He wasn't tough. He didn't have a hard edge to him. kind of boy scoutish. >> Yes. >> Um but everybody everybody was drawn to him. He just had that kind of personality. So going Navy Seal was actually not anything that I would have had on my bingo card. He didn't that wasn't his tough like you would think Navy Seal there would be a whole lot more harder edge personality and he just he he wasn't that. But did he make a good career out of it? >> So he graduates Air Force Academy. What happens to his life after that? He transfers his commission to the Navy, which I didn't even know you could do. Um, goes to BUDS, which is the the first thing you have to do when you go to become a Navy Seal. Um, and he he spent 19 and a half years in before he died and was 6 months away from his pension >> and by all accounts was on the Admiral tract. He was supposed to go to school up in Rhode Island in June of 2013. um because that's I guess a prerequisite for for what the college >> y >> so um he excelled at every level which is not surprising >> um but you know in this and I I'm learning all this over the last seven years but in the SEALs you don't if you're an officer you have to fill certain billets certain roles on your your trajectory upward so there's certain boxes you got to check to serve in this role, you serve in that role, and then they want you, if you're going to become an admiral, you have to run a team. So, he became the commander of Seal Team 4. Um, which is one of the East Coast, uh, Virginia Beach SEAL teams. The even numbers are East Coast, the >> odds are West. And, uh, right after he got command, they got deployed to Afghanistan in 2012. Um, and then he died December 22nd, 2012 in Afghanistan. >> After how many months in the country? >> Uh, I believe they got there in September. So, uh, 3 months roughly. >> So, tell us the um, did he have a family by the way? >> Yes. He had um a daughter who was nine and his wife um, he loved his wife and his children his child very much. And, uh, you know, this was he died 3 days before Christmas. So give us the Wikipedia version of how he died. What's the official version? >> The official version is suicide. Um they say that the deployment was a it was a it was in the middle of the war of the GWAT era. 2012 was smack dab in the middle and um he had a couple guys get killed SEALs and then a couple army guys get killed separate all separate incidents but um he struggled a little bit with that and they said he was depressed and uh you know I've been depressed and we're sitting here talking I didn't kill myself so it's not a there's not a a direct link between depression and suicide um but he was found in his bunk with a gunshot went to his head and a gun still in his hand. And you know to a layman that that may look like suicide. >> Yep. >> And for a lot of years that's just what it was. And >> how many deployments he had? >> I want to say 14 total, but not not all to war zones. But for they deployments have a >> they do a mission, but it's not necessarily a wartime mission. you know, they'll do a boarding of commercial vessel that's, you know, the pirates are on or whatever. So, um, but he had done one in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, but this was his first command level deployment. So, they just said he was depressed and decided to take his life. >> How old was he? >> 42. Career naval officer, commander, SEAL team 4 kills himself. Is that a common profile? It's never happened, >> right? >> Um, >> so the guys that kill themselves, the military is like some PFC drunk. I mean, there's a lot of suicide in the military, obviously. >> Not many in theater, though. >> And of and of command level officers, >> zero, right, >> in in the entire Giwad era. He would have been the only one. Um, and that's, you know, I I when I heard it was suicide, again, I wasn't I didn't have an emotional connection to Job. We weren't tight. >> Yeah. So, it was sad obviously, but I didn't have this visceral response, >> right, >> that I felt like I needed to mourn or anything like that. It just was what it was. And I went on with my life until 2019 when this happened. >> Did you have a psychiatric history? >> None. Zero. There there was there was no um notes, there was no conversations, there was no um forewarnings of any type that he had any in inclination to to kill himself. Was he intoxicated when he died? >> No, he had um and this is he was a vehemently was against medicines. >> Yeah. >> Like he just didn't like taking medicines. But apparently he uh was on Valium uh benadryil and uh Tramodol that was in his system. Um totally not normal for him. And only one of them was actually on the books prescribed. So um we don't know where the other >> which a described >> the volume he because he wasn't sleeping. >> Yeah. >> Um low dose very low dose volume. >> Um you know and over there it's not like good with CVS here. I mean there's >> but there is there is a a tracking mechanism to who gets issued what for what. Um but I'm sure there is uh moments where that's not recorded. But Job would not want it not recorded. Like that's not his he's the commander. It's he does he sets the tone. He's he's the guy that that follows all the rules. And uh so I I just I'm not 100% sure if those were prescribed to him or not. >> Why was his name Job? >> I I didn't ask his dad this, but knowing his dad that he died two years ago, unfortunately. Um but I got to really know him. He was a great man. and knowing their their faith and knowing their u their family knit nature of of their family. It's just Job, his sister and mom and dad. He was named after the the biblical character Job. 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Like that just it made no sense to me. But again, I didn't have a reason to to spend a lot of time on it. And but 2019, I was I had a podcast at the time and I wanted to have his sister on to basically say who Job was to her. Um, not as not a bio thing, but just like my brother was this person, you know, I wrote a book about my brother because I wanted my brother's name to be remembered forever. >> And uh I wanted her to have that ability to have something that she could have and a recording of and her telling her brother's story. And uh she said to me, "Can we meet with my dad first?" I'm like, "Okay." So, I go over there and he hands me a three- ring binder with 356 pages of military reports and says, "This is Job's death book." And I don't think he committed suicide. I said, "Okay." And he goes, "Well, you take a look at it." I was still a cop at the time. And I said, "Certainly." And I said, "But I I need to be real honest with you. If I think it's suicide, I'm going to tell you it's suicide." He goes, "That's fair enough. I just want somebody that I trust to to look at it." So I looked at it for about a week. >> It's pretty common, as you know, as a cop >> to hear from surviving family members of someone who commits suicide. I don't think it's was suicide, >> right? Oh, everybody. That's that's a >> Yeah, I've heard it a million times. >> So I review it for about a week and what I realized was is that basically the the book, the death book, was like a puzzle. The box on the cover has a picture and the pages in between were supposed to make me believe that the that Joe killed himself and what I got was a thousand piece puzzle set with 250 pieces. So I couldn't create the picture that Joe killed himself. So I told his dad I said I can't say it's suicide based on the information that's in this book. Um I would need to dig more. And he goes do you mind doing that? Said no I don't. He goes do you want me to pay you? I said, "I I don't sell hope." I said, "So, I I don't need any money. I'll just do this." And at the time, I I wasn't expecting seven years of my life devoted to it. But, right, um I thought I was just going to do a little digging and search the internet and find some information. >> Thankfully, we don't have a clear picture of the path before us. >> Yes. Would have been a hard stop probably. I'm not going to lie. Um so, yeah, I I it just began this this journey for truth into finding out what happened to Job. And the more I got exposed to sources and you know there's a there's a group of people that have been investigating Navy Seal corruption from former members of the community, intelligence agencies, federal and state law enforcement that are all in this little network of people that have been doing this for three decades since Marenko um who was creator of Seal Team 6, famed SEAL um dirty as the day is long. But um once I got into that network, I was exposed to them. I got exposed to everything. >> I I don't want to sidetrack you, but could you just give us the Mareno overview, the Wikipedia version? >> Yeah, he was uh you know, creator of Seal Team 6, which is dev development group. >> Yep. >> Um the elite tier one element of Navy Seals and uh he he created the brand of the Navy Seals. wrote books. Um, I read so I can't I I know I've never read any of his books to be honest with you, but they're they're all How do you make a seal look good 101 and uh but he was I mean he was in the Epstein files um well known that he was running drugs and and women with for the cartels which is a a common theme to him with special operations guys going down and whether it's for guns for hire or whatever but training cartels and tactics and techniques and procedures, which you know, you would think is probably counterproductive to the sovereignty of our country, but who am I to judge? But Dick Marceno was the creator of the Navy Seal brand. >> And it you believe it's been established that he was corrupt in a deep way. >> Very much so. Um, and again, I'm not a firsthand witness to any of that, but having spoken to people who were, it's very clear that he was the the godfather of of all of it. He had he had a very deep and influential control over a lot of pieces of the Navy Seal brand and then also our government. like he had he was just very very wily and conniving and smart. >> He's gone. >> He passed a couple years ago. Yeah. >> But up until his death, he was still very much an intricral part of like things didn't happen without his blessing. So >> interesting. >> Yeah. >> I think most people are totally unaware of that. >> Yeah. It's Listen, I wish I was unaware of it. So, so you basically got pulled into this story because the father of your classmate asked you to to take a closer look at what happened. >> Yep. And and once I reviewed it and told him I'd start digging, I said, "Here's what I can promise you." I said, "I'll I'll find the answer." I said, "And I won't stop until I do." >> With that said, what do you think now having spent seven years looking at this? Um, what do you think happened? to Job Price. >> I know 100% certainty he did not kill himself. Um the one thing and and I and once we get to the the actual details of the crime, um you'll you'll see it clearly, but forensics, there's certain things you can do to make a scene look a certain way and still screw it up. And Job's body was staged. Um, nobody heard a gunshot in an occupied building um, overnight where there was an operation center that was 247 right on the other side of the wall of his bedroom in a war zone. Nobody heard a gunshot. Um, the gun Job was holding was not suppressed. It was unable to be suppressed. Didn't have a threaded barrel. It was a Sig 226 um, >> 9mm. >> 9mm. And um he was shot in the same position that he slept in every night. He was naked, which is how he slept on his left side with a pillow in the crook of his left arm. And that's how he was shot. And yep, I've been on a lot of suicides in my career. And it's not all, but I will tell you that a vast majority of suicides have some it's either immediately reactionary where like you walk in on your wife having an affair and you go out and kill yourself. Um, but most of the time it's if there's a pre-planning involved, you wouldn't pre-plan it to do it while you're sleeping. Just doesn't the the scene didn't make sense. And that was the first thing that stuck out to me when I saw the crime scene photos, what it just didn't make sense. And he was found he was shot on his left side. He was shot from the right to the left uh downward in a 45 degree angle, but he was found laying on his back with the gun still in his hand across his chest and his head facing to the right, which is the opposite of the direction his head was in when he was shot. Um, that to me, I couldn't figure out like just physics how his body could have gotten there. And then there was just missing pieces. There was no ballistics reports in the the documents that I was given by the father and uh no gunshot residue testing lab results, no DNA trace evidence, you know, blood, skin, hair testing done. Um at least I didn't have the reports for it. And that took me almost four years to get um because you just keep get kicked down the lane when you do foyas and if you're not foying the exact right department of the exact right agency, you're not going to get the answer you're looking for. So finally I was able to get those reports and those reports told me that Job didn't kill himself and there was no gunshot residue testing done on his hands which is the only place you really need to do GSR testing on is to prove whether somebody shot a gun or not. Um there was not no proof that Job fired a gun which is vital to you concluding either someone did or did not kill himself. There was no um testing done for not to get graphic, but when you commit suicide with a contact wound, there's going to be a reverse explosion coming outward, blood, hair, skin, brain, bone is going to come back because of the gases. As they hit a solid contact, it just spreads out and then the impact and the the velocity of the bullet and it just creates blood and everything coming back at you. So, there was very little blood on Job on his hand, his his right hand. Um, and the gun was never tested for any of those trace evidence things. So, for me, that that's a why wouldn't you test it? Like, how would you not want to know that that was the gun? And then the ballistics, only thing the ballistics showed was the gun, the bullet, and the casing that was found came from that gun. But there was no proof that that gun was ever used in that room. They had these um in order to keep people from having accidental negligent discharges, they had like a a place where you can pull your trigger and make sure your gun's cleared and so you're not going into the the the building with a loaded weapon. Very easily you could empty that, take that gun, fire it in there, retrieve the bullet, retrieve the casing and the gun and put it in the room. And yes, they they go together, but doesn't mean they were ever used in the commission of any type of violent act. And so those were things that really started to shape things up for me. Um, but it wasn't until, you know, I Let me back up real quick. One thing, and this will just astound you, and listen, I understand NCIS on TV is not NCIS in real life. when Job was found dead at 9:30ish in the morning by the same guy that found him last saw him alive and they everybody you know he got all the other command staff people and they all agreed Job was dead brought in the NCIS agent who just happened to be in the building and the dock to pronounce him dead. Um, typically in law enforcement, if you have a crime scene, because at this point, when you find somebody dead, it's a crime scene until it's proven not to be a crime, >> right? >> Um, they all agree he's dead. They leave. The NCI agent, NCIS agent locks the door and gives the key to the guy that found him dead, who was a SEAL, and said, "Don't let anybody in this room. We'll be back with more guys." And 9 hours later, NCIS came back. So for nine hours, Job's body laid there in his bed in his room with all of the suspects having access to that room. And in law enforcement, once it's a crime scene, it's your crime scene. There's no relinquishing it to non-law enforcement until properly relieved. That's a crime scene. Law enforcement must be in control of it at all times. Or else any evidence that would come from it, if there if a crime had occurred, you wouldn't be able to prove anything because it would all be fruit of the poisonous tree. You couldn't you couldn't use it. there was no crime scene integrity um chain of custody of evidence like you just couldn't nothing could ever be proven which was their greatest knowing now that it was a homicide the greatest thing they did was create an a scenario where evidence could never point to them so imagine being president knowing that anything you do could determine the fate of the world that's exactly the situation that Reagan faced at the height of the Cold War stakes couldn't have been higher Studios new movie the brink of war brings that moment in history to life for modern audiences. Both the US and the Soviet Union possessed enough nuclear weapons to destroy each other. And they still do, by the way. That means that one wrong move would have ended the world. And that's what makes the brink of war so compelling. It is a political thriller. 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He was told not to touch Joe's body and Job's body gets taken out by the medical people and the NCIS agent forgot to put uh a bloody bed sheet in his with his belongings that go into the body bag so it can all get tested when it goes back to do for the medical examiner. And when he walked in, they were washing Job's entire body from head to toe. They took the bags off his hands, scrubbed his hands, washed every part of his body, literally all evidence down the drain. >> Who was they? >> Um, the medical people at the direction of Jeff Peeler. And Jeff's excuse was he wanted Job to have a dignified return flight home. The problem is they put the evidence bags, new evidence bags back on his hands, which is a a deceitful thing. Like if you remove evidence bags, wash somebody's hands and put new evidence bags on. You want whoever is going to be receiving that body to think that they've been not touched, >> right? That's the assumption that the evidence bags sealed present. Um so all those things and I knew those a lot of those things early on. Um minus the reports that I didn't have which were you know the big red flags. you know, nine hours of unsecured crime scene is a big problem for me as a police officer. Um, but in 2024, um, I started to get some traction on some podcasts and people were knowing more about Job and, you know, I would talk about a lot of things, but always Job was the focus of the the episodes that I was on. and forensic people who follow these more the the vet bro podcast world started to reach out to me and ask if they'd if I'd let them take a look at the everything I had. And once I vetted who they were, I had no problem doing that. More eyes the better. I'm not a forensics guy. I'm just a cop. And uh I had five fourensic investigators, so guys that actually work crime scenes. and then a uh forensic let me get his title exactly right. Um forensics criminology um he's a forensic science and and PhD in criminology. His name is Brent Turvy who is uh was recently on the Idaho four college kids that were murdered by Yeah. So he was he worked for the defense on that as a as their forensic expert, one of their forensic experts. But anyways, he reviewed it too. And every single one of them, the four investigators and the the doctor guy all concluded that it was murder. So all of the things that I knew as my gutwise, just from experience, I knew now that >> I hadn't been convincing myself of something that wasn't true. Now I know that it's true. And then I've spent the last two years trying to get the United States government to care and reopen the case. I've had Congress people write letters to the Navy and the Navy keeps coming back. We're we're satisfied with our investigation. If he wants to send in any information, he can send it through the tip line, which I'm sure >> the tip line >> quickly will be responded to. >> Yeah. The unmonitored tip line. >> Um Okay. So what you're describing, if true, would be a fairly complex operation. And so it would require motive, I would think. >> Yes. >> Why why go to the trouble to murder a man and cover it up and take the risk and uh all of that without a real reason? And what would the reason be, do you think? >> Well, it's evolved. Um, initially I was looking at it from a individual moment perspective like this happened which caused this, this happened which caused that. Um, there were multiple things that happened on that deployment that um could have played a role in in someone or some group of people wanting to hurt Job. Um when Joe before he deployed as the commander of Seal Team 4, he went to the same area to because Seal Team 2 was the team they relieved and he was there just sort of getting the lay of the land, meeting with their commander, knowing the locals, um meeting the the police chief, the guy in charge of the province who's a terrorist. Um and just getting to understand what's going on. And at this time in June of 2012, there was an Afghan detainine that was killed by four SEALs and while detained. >> While detained. Yeah. Tortured and killed. Um and Job was brought in on that to look over the evidence and make his recommendation. Not official, but the commander of SEAL team 2 wanted his input and Job recommended court marshal for all of them. And during this the same period of time, the Taliban there was intercept signal and intercept of chatter of them talking about wanting to get retribution against the SEALs for what they did to one of their villagers. >> Now why did why was he killed the detainer? >> They thought well they they said he was a suspect in a in an a bomb going off. >> Um but it wasn't he wasn't the person. They ended up letting him go and he died 2 hours after they let him go back in his village >> from his injuries. from his injuries. Yeah. So, fast forward to November um when Job is now commander of Seal Team 4 and they've already relieved Seal Team 2 and they moved the Ford operating base from where it was to about 60 kilometers away but still within the the operating area of the the local Taliban and u one of his guys was killed in an ambush and uh that was the the retribution for what happened with their villager was Seal Team 2 and Job was unaware of this signals intelligence that was intercepted that there was a potential for for that type of event to happen. Um and also at this period of time that you know it's 2012 winning hearts and minds was important for many reasons some not valid and village stability operations were happening all the time and you're they're trying to help these villagers and get them you sustaining themselves and um interfacing with the local mulas and things of that nature. Well, Job had to deal with this guy named Matula Khan, who was the local police chief in the Ursan pro province. Very powerful man, former, you know, drug smuggler and human trafficker before he became the police chief, quote unquote. And one of the things that Job really struggled with was having to deal with this guy because he knew that there was underage kids being trafficked um and that drugs, you know, this is I think you had John Kuryaku on. >> Yep. talking about the poppy fields and how the CIA paid, you know, farmers in Afghanistan to not grow crops and grow poppies. And by 2012, 93% of the heroin in the world was coming out of the poppy fields of Afghanistan. And it was a it's a very well-known fact that the SEALs part of their responsibility was to protect those poppy fields. >> Owning a home has always been the core of the American dream. It's the asset that families work their lives to build. Place of stability, security, and actual wealth. But too many homeowners right now are stuck swiping credit cards to cover groceries, paying a survival tax of 20% interest or more. S