HEATED DEBATE CLIP: Tucker vs. Nuclear War Advocate

use of nuclear weapons. Is that ever justified? >> I think it was justified in bringing the Second World War to an end. >> So, it's justified to kill people who did nothing wrong? >> We're not talking about people who did nothing wrong. The Japanese were at >> of crowded cities are not responsible for the war. Women and children getting >> We were we were we were in a state of total war. >> We were not in a state of total war, actually. [clears throat] There were no Japanese troops on American soil, so there was no risk of invasion. >> It attacked you, but it wasn't likely to put >> It attacked a territory, right? And which is bad. >> It was It was not a state then. It wasn't a state then. And of course, you're quite right. >> Is this ever allowed under the precepts of said Christianity to kill people who did nothing wrong? To kill women and children? >> Does it meet St. Thomas Aquinas's test of a just war? >> not. >> Well, I think it does. >> How? >> Are you legitimate authority? Yes, you are. Is it an important cause? Yes, because you have been attacked. And is it proportionate? Yes, because it actually shortens the duration of the war. >> That's not the definition of proportionate. You punch me in the face, I can't shoot you. >> Yes, but this is different means of killing people. >> Killing people's kids has nothing to do with it. That's okay because why? >> war with the whole country. >> War with the kids? >> And it ended the war. Yes, Japan was at war with the United States and the United Kingdom. We were >> So, if another nation says they're at war with us, it's okay to kill our kids? >> We don't want to be at war with other nations. >> No, I'm asking an abstract question. And you're you're clearly fluent. It's not a ridiculous question. >> It's a good question. Japan had attacked the United States, had started a war and had started a war >> So, what you're saying as a Christian is yes, it is okay to kill children who did nothing wrong. >> Do you feel that that is a Christian position? >> Yes. >> Really?